Over the last 13 years (well 12 years 11 months — but who is counting), I have asked the people I interview for the Software Process and Measurement Cast the same basic question to end the primary content portion of the podcast.

“If you had a magic want what two “things” would you change and why?”

I tailor the question to the topic each person is talking about. Still, it is basically the same question. Many times some of the greatest insights from the podcast happen while discussing this final question. I am currently experimenting with transcription tools. Today I would like to share the text from how Evan Leybourn answered the question during SPaMCAST 578.

Tom Cagley
If tomorrow morning you woke up and someone handed you a magic wand and said that you had the power to change any two things impacting business agility well, but those two things being why.

Evan Leybourn
So, you’ve asked me this question before and foolishly, I probably should have gone back and listened to what I said then. But today and this perhaps shows where we’ve got to, I’ll take a step back. We’re in the process of doing a strategic plan for the next quarter. And one of the things that we’ve done is ask as an organization, what is our mission statement? And why do we exist? Who do we serve? And one of the things that we wrote down as we were exploring our purpose was a very simple statement. The desire to achieve business agility is the only impediment to achieve it. And that would be my magic wand at the moment. Sadly, that’s not the case. If you want to be an agile organization, if you want to achieve business agility, the investment and the effort in time and cultural change and mindset change and practice change, and structural change is enormous. The ability to become an agile organization is an investment, a worthwhile one, but it is quite significant. If I had a magic wand, I would make it as simple as we want to be an agile organization and flash suddenly you are, that desire is the impediment and that’s one of our missions. Our mission is to give companies the material and the concepts and the research and the data and the case studies and everything that they need, so that the journey becomes easier, or at least perhaps a little bit more signposted. So that would be my magic wand.

Tom Cagley
If you did have that magic wand and you poofed and everyone who desired to be was, what would the world be like? What would be the next thing? Because there’s always a “next” thing with humans.

Evan Leybourn
There is and the Institute would close its doors, and I would find something else to do. And the great thing about being a mission-based organization is closing doors is actually a good thing. It means you’re no longer needed. So what is the next thing? I don’t have a crystal ball. It is fuzzy at the best of times. So I don’t know but I do know that we will adapt. And as things become important, we as a species, we as individuals within that species will identify this is important, and we will adapt to focus in on that. I don’t need to know what is the next thing I don’t need to know where my attention is going to be in six months or 12 months or two years. I just need to know that I have the ability to adapt towards whatever that thing is going to be.

Tom Cagley
A profound statement.

I would suggest listening to the whole interview at one the links below

Direct Playback: http://bit.ly/35PQyG2

Web Player and Show Notes: http://bit.ly/396ZF7i
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