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The SPaMCAST 596 features our interview with Tom Henricksen. Tom brings the industry the DevOps and the Agile Online Summits and is an active thought leader in the agile community.  We talked about how events like his Summits foster learning and sharpening the saw. Tom suggests that tuning your skills and capabilities has never been more important as the economy struggles to get going again.




Twitter: @TomHenricksen 

Re-Read Saturday News 

This week we tackle Chapter 8 of Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High, Second Edition by Patterson, Grenny, McMillan, Switzler. Arguably the feel of this re-read to date has had a bit of book report feel. Since this is a first read of the book for me, consuming what I have read has tended to be a reflection of how I process concepts. We have approximately 3 weeks left, do you have ideas for the next book?  

Chapter 8 builds on Chapter 5’s message of establishing safety during a dialogue by adding a new step: exploring the other’s path of action. A quote that hooked me on the chapter was “You will never work through your differences until all parties freely add to the pool of meaning.”

Week 1 – Logistics, Forewards, and Preface 

Week 2 – Chapter 1: What’s a crucial conversation? And who cares? 

Week 3 – Chapter 2: The Power of Dialogue  

Week 4 – Chapter 3: Start With Heart 

Week 5 – Learn To Look

Week 6 – Make It Safe 

Week 7 – Master my Stories 

Week 8 – State My Path 

Week 9 – Explore Others’ Paths 

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DevOps Online Summit 2020 

April 20 – 24

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April 21 and 22, 2020

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The SPaMCAST 597 will feature a special panel of practitioners and experts to discuss working from home now and after the initial reaction to COVID-19 wears off.  The panel was comprised of Paul Laberge, Susan Parente, John Voris, and Jo Ann Sweeney.